Five to Go

Episode 352: Daytona, Atlanta, and driving NASCAR motor coaches

Five to Go
Episode 352: Daytona, Atlanta, and driving NASCAR motor coaches
March 3, 2026
Special guests Archie and Tina Kennedy join Dan, Devin, and Doug and discuss what driving motor coaches for Hendrick Motorsports' Jeff Gordon (Archie) and Jeff Andrews (Tina) is like, including how little time they spend at home. Archie also shares a classic Tony Stewart story and Tina shares what working for Greg Biffle was like. Then the crew gives their Daytona 500 thoughts, including what Devin saw at the track in Daytona and what Dan would do to the length of the Great American Race. And they give a weekend run down of Echo Park Speedway events and their picks to win.
Date Name
03/03/26 Episode 353: Ricky Stenhouse Jr. sums up the start to 2026 2023 Daytona 500 winner Ricky Stenhouse Jr. joins Doug, Devin, and Dan to discuss his runner-up Daytona 500 finish, his early Atlanta wreck, his team’s approach to the season, how he trains, and his “ranch.” Then the guys preview COTA and give their takeaways from attending Atlanta.
03/03/26 Episode 352: Daytona, Atlanta, and driving NASCAR motor coaches Special guests Archie and Tina Kennedy join Dan, Devin, and Doug and discuss what driving motor coaches for Hendrick Motorsports' Jeff Gordon (Archie) and Jeff Andrews (Tina) is like, including how little time they spend at home. Archie also shares a classic Tony Stewart story and Tina shares what working for Greg Biffle was like. Then the crew gives their Daytona 500 thoughts, including what Devin saw at the track in Daytona and what Dan would do to the length of the Great American Race. And they give a weekend run down of Echo Park Speedway events and their picks to win.
03/03/26 Episode 351: Devin's first Daytona 500, 2026 predictions Doug, Devin, and Dan discuss all things Daytona. Devin gives his impressions from his first media experience and his first 500 weekend and shares what the mood was like around both qualifying and the long media day. The crew also discusses Kyle Busch's future after this season and predicts Daytona winners and 2026 champions in all three series.
02/06/26 Episode 350: Ryan Preece becomes a winner on a strange stage Doug, Devin, and Dan break down the halting, strange, and exciting Clash win for Ryan Preece at Bowman Gray Stadium. They discuss what impact the race has on the season and why Dan thinks the extra horsepower is problematic on such a short track. They also talk about the Washington D.C. grand prix just added for IndyCar and preview what Devin is looking to see at his first Daytona 500.
02/06/26 Episode 349: NOVAL - and is retro the right way? Doug, Dan, and Devin properly toast the ROVAL after reports indicate the Charlotte fall race is moving back to the oval. They recall some of the biggest moments of on the Charlotte road course, some stats, and why the Playoff eliminations are what made those races the most exciting. They also deconstruct NASCAR's "old is new again" approach and how fan enthusiasm is a moving target. They also preview the Clash, but note that this episode was recorded before NASCAR moved all Clash events to Sunday.
02/06/26 Episode 348: Rule changes, fast food, and familiar names in new rides Doug, Dan, and Devin are diving deep on some of NASCAR's tweaks to the fastest lap points and pit road procedures. They also discuss another big name in the Daytona Truck race and two female drivers that will be part-time in Trucks. And they break down a big fast food chain moving into and out of NASCAR.
01/15/26 Episode 347: A popular Chase...not named Elliott Doug, Devin, and Dan share their initial thoughts on NASCAR's choice to revert back to the 10-race Chase format and where fans and media should now place their emphasis. They also discuss Tony Stewart's return to NASCAR - for one race - and another Cup driver deciding to dip into the Trucks. They also discuss the theft at Greg Biffle's house, what IHRA is up to, and a popular sponsor that is staying in NASCAR.
01/10/26 Episode 346: Our take on Phelps' NASCAR exit Were Doug, Dan, and Devin expecting Steve Phelps to leave NASCAR? They will explain why they think his exit was inevitable and what may lie next for the sport. They also toy with the idea of outside ownership of the sport and what they want and expect Monday's Playoff format announcement to be.
01/01/26 Episode 345: Our 2025 NASCAR superlatives With Dan away, Doug and Devin reflect on a tumultuous NASCAR season and explain why only one driver qualifies as the sport's main character of the year. They also explain drivers and teams they saw both improve and under-perform and why predictions are so difficult. And they discuss yet another NASCAR tragedy, as Denny Hamlin's father, Dennis, passed away in a house fire.
12/20/25 Episode 344: The best way to remember Greg Biffle and the other six killed this week Doug, Devin, and Dan reflect on Greg Biffle and the six others killed in Thursday's plane crash in North Carolina. Doug and Dan share some personal interactions with Biffle. Dan talks about Biffle's perseverance during a long testing day at Gresham Motorsports Park and Doug recalls a particularly good media session with the Biff. They also talk about the others killed in the wreck and how the NASCAR community has experienced so much loss in aviation. They also quickly give their take on the beef between Denny Hamlin and Larry McReynolds after the conclusion of the lawsuit.
12/14/25 Episode 343: Post-lawsuit aura Doug, Devin, and Dan share their thoughts after NASCAR and the teams settle the antitrust suit and what lies ahead for the sport. They also talk about the breaking point that they think led to the settlement and why it could bolster the other national NASCAR series. They also talk about Nick Sanchez losing his ride, Levar Scott to Alpha Prime, Stephen Nasse finally winning the Snowball Derby, and Keelan Harvick's Snowflake triumph.
12/06/25 Episode 342: Trial goes green, mood goes black Doug, Dan, and Devin share their thoughts after a robust opening week in the NASCAR antitrust suit. They explore whether their opinions on either the teams' or NASCAR cases really changed after testimony from Denny Hamlin, Bob Jenkins, Steve O'Donnell, and others in the Charlotte court. They also discuss if money really solves the problems and if there is anything in the case that would actually make an ardent fan not watch in 2026. And they cover big news with Chris Gabehart and some other NASCAR offseason news.
11/25/25 Episode 340: Tommy Joe Martins on running a small team and what top-20 in points really means Doug, Devin, and Dan welcome Alpha Prime Racing co-owner and former driver Tommy Joe Martins to do a deep-dive in the economics of running his race team and the key differences between Alpha Prime and the championship-winning teams. Martins previews the awards ceremony he created for all teams, the Grand National Bash, and shares why he is so outspoken on behalf of lower-level teams. Martins also answers why charters and spec cars haven't come to the lower series and why he opposes Cup drivers running in Trucks and O'Reilly Auto Parts races. Martins also talks about why the celebration was so big when driver Brennan Poole finished top 20 in points at the checkered flag in Phoenix and how it fiscally was like a race win.
11/09/25 Episode 338: Hypocrisy and and misunderstanding in the format outrage Doug, Devin, and Dan review the championship races in Phoenix and get to the heart of the outrage and misunderstanding that some people have with Hamlin's heartbreak and Larson's surprising Championship win. They also discuss Silly Season and the increase next year of Cup drivers in lower series races.
10/29/25 Episode 337: Throw a blanket over the Cup-four, young spinners Doug, Dan, and Devin break down William Byron's dominant, clutch Martinsville win and detail what this means for Byron and Larson in Phoenix. The crew also gives their championship picks, previews championship weekend, and shares an interesting wrinkle in the Xfinity Series title. They also talk about young drivers hurting their futures and what info is missing to really drive the lawsuit narrative.
10/22/25 Episode 336: Playoff cutoff trends, Martinsville difficulties Doug, Devin, and Dan recap Chase Briscoe's Talladega win and how the tables turned for Penske. Devin also compares Talladega's crowd-energy in the stands to last year and analyzes the Playoff bubble now versus past years in this format. Dan shares why he would not want to run Martinsville or Talladega as a Playoff driver and what he plans to do at the annual Dawsonville Mountain Moonshine Festival this weekend. The crew also breaks down some Silly Season news and reasons why F1's Apple TV deal could be problematic.
10/16/25 Episode 335: Heartfelt Hamlin and a deep dive on race manipulation Doug, Devin, and Dan discuss Hamlin's emotional triumph in Vegas and why win 60 hit differently. They also talk about the trickiness in the Ty Dillon vs. William Byron crash and why "must win" is premature. Then they give their opinions on NASCAR's officiating of race manipulation and why that is so difficult. They also preview Talladega, including the surprisingly good driver there in the Gen-7 era.
10/09/25 Episode 334: What people are missing in reviewing the Roval Doug, Dan, and Devin sum up the Roval cutoff race from Charlotte and why Shane van Gisbergen's dominant win and Ross Chastain's Playoffs loss are both misunderstood. They also preview Vegas and give their shot-in-the-dark Playoff predictions.
09/25/25 Episode 332: Race craft, conflict, modern crew chiefs Doug, Devin, and Dan give their highs and lows from New Hampshire and why Ryan Blaney was already an elite performer before his dominant win. They also break down where both Hamlin and Gibbs went wrong in their conflict and why Gibbs needs to work on his race craft. They then explore the idea of third teams weakening organizations and preview Kansas. And Dan Elliott also asks what a modern crew chief's role is, as Trackhouse poaches Randall Burnett for Connor Zilisch.
09/20/25 Episode 331: Bell, Bris-tires, and Dan's radio hacks Doug, Devin, and Dan dissect the surprise tire wear fest won by Christopher Bell at Bristol last weekend. They each share their biggest high and low from the race weekend and Doug and Devin share the comments they heard from drivers and teams while they were on pit road and in the garage. Then they preview New Hampshire and discuss how difficult finding standout drivers is, along with Dan Elliott's funny story on fans hacking radios.